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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2011/06/squidoo-setbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellen, First of all, I &quot;feel ya.&quot; :-/

I&#039;m not sure if &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; lensrank woes are merely seasonal or a combination of recent changes. Summer is typically slower for me. (Makes sense with a primarily education niche.)

Lensrank is AMAZINGLY competitive. It&#039;s so bad for some lenses that I&#039;ve even considered deleting them. I haven&#039;t, but it&#039;s bad for morale to see a lens with 180,000 LR. My worst performers are former groups. I sort of wish I&#039;d just deleted them when they were converted to lenses. The vast majority have not been high performers --ever.

One thing that still seems to have strong but temporary effect is angel blessing. But without squidcasts, I&#039;m seeing fewer of those.

I&#039;ve joined Wizzley. It&#039;s a good platform, for sure. But there&#039;s no direct payout. It&#039;s all through adsense or other affiliates. Squidoo is really a better money maker on that hand because I don&#039;t write on profitable adsense topics.

I am really curious about Hubpages. I know some writers are migrating their articles from HP to Wizzley. I don&#039;t know what to do with my HP. They don&#039;t give me nearly as much return as my lenses. Sometimes I wonder if diversification is worth it. Squidoo works. Why change? But everyone says I should diversify. So based on their wisdom, I&#039;m branching out. But so far, I&#039;m not seeing much promise ($ly I mean). I know it takes time, so I&#039;m trying to wait. I guess I can always transfer content if necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, First of all, I &#8220;feel ya.&#8221; :-/</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if <i>my</i> lensrank woes are merely seasonal or a combination of recent changes. Summer is typically slower for me. (Makes sense with a primarily education niche.)</p>
<p>Lensrank is AMAZINGLY competitive. It&#8217;s so bad for some lenses that I&#8217;ve even considered deleting them. I haven&#8217;t, but it&#8217;s bad for morale to see a lens with 180,000 LR. My worst performers are former groups. I sort of wish I&#8217;d just deleted them when they were converted to lenses. The vast majority have not been high performers &#8211;ever.</p>
<p>One thing that still seems to have strong but temporary effect is angel blessing. But without squidcasts, I&#8217;m seeing fewer of those.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve joined Wizzley. It&#8217;s a good platform, for sure. But there&#8217;s no direct payout. It&#8217;s all through adsense or other affiliates. Squidoo is really a better money maker on that hand because I don&#8217;t write on profitable adsense topics.</p>
<p>I am really curious about Hubpages. I know some writers are migrating their articles from HP to Wizzley. I don&#8217;t know what to do with my HP. They don&#8217;t give me nearly as much return as my lenses. Sometimes I wonder if diversification is worth it. Squidoo works. Why change? But everyone says I should diversify. So based on their wisdom, I&#8217;m branching out. But so far, I&#8217;m not seeing much promise ($ly I mean). I know it takes time, so I&#8217;m trying to wait. I guess I can always transfer content if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have seen a slight increase in traffic and sales, but not enough to have any significance.  I HAVE been updating lenses more since recent changes (bio mainly), and because I have learned some more valuable information that has helped me with onpage SEO a bit more.  
I have days when I am completely discouraged, and I know that the ultimate plan is to have my own sites, but money is non-existent and I cannot justify the cost at this point.  In addition, I do not feel confident enough to strike out on my own and blogging is something that I struggle with (cant find a subject I would want to write about regularly enough), so Squidoo (and soon Wizzley.com) are my only means at this point.  Although I signed up for Hubpages I have yet to make any pages there.  I signed up around the same time as they got slapped, and so it didnt seem like the right time to do anything there.
I am still hopeful about the future (at least on most days), but in addition to all these changes, YouTube has just banned Making Money Online topics and deleted videos with such titles, including ones made by reputable people.  I read of this on Tiffany Dow&#039;s blog, as she related of all her videos being deleted.  
I do not know what the future holds, and it seems that Google has far too much control over what happens to our chances of making an honest income online.  I realise they are not the only Search Engine, but let&#039;s face it, they are the one that seem to be most obvious to searchers.
Sorry to hear your income is down as a result of all these changes.  Living in CA is grossly inflated, so every dollar counts.  Hopefully you will come back stronger and better and this will turn out to be just another bump in the road.  
Thanks, Ellen, for yet another thought-provoking and informative post.  This blog is one that I get a lot of pleasure out of reading, and am following with great interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen a slight increase in traffic and sales, but not enough to have any significance.  I HAVE been updating lenses more since recent changes (bio mainly), and because I have learned some more valuable information that has helped me with onpage SEO a bit more.<br />
I have days when I am completely discouraged, and I know that the ultimate plan is to have my own sites, but money is non-existent and I cannot justify the cost at this point.  In addition, I do not feel confident enough to strike out on my own and blogging is something that I struggle with (cant find a subject I would want to write about regularly enough), so Squidoo (and soon Wizzley.com) are my only means at this point.  Although I signed up for Hubpages I have yet to make any pages there.  I signed up around the same time as they got slapped, and so it didnt seem like the right time to do anything there.<br />
I am still hopeful about the future (at least on most days), but in addition to all these changes, YouTube has just banned Making Money Online topics and deleted videos with such titles, including ones made by reputable people.  I read of this on Tiffany Dow&#8217;s blog, as she related of all her videos being deleted.<br />
I do not know what the future holds, and it seems that Google has far too much control over what happens to our chances of making an honest income online.  I realise they are not the only Search Engine, but let&#8217;s face it, they are the one that seem to be most obvious to searchers.<br />
Sorry to hear your income is down as a result of all these changes.  Living in CA is grossly inflated, so every dollar counts.  Hopefully you will come back stronger and better and this will turn out to be just another bump in the road.<br />
Thanks, Ellen, for yet another thought-provoking and informative post.  This blog is one that I get a lot of pleasure out of reading, and am following with great interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom aka Onefootputt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would agree with your assessment of removing different lens sharing aspects on Squidoo.  For me, it started way back when they removed groups.

One you didn&#039;t mention is the changes they made to the Discovery module allowing lensmasters to monopolize all six spots which relagates it to a featured lens module and doesn&#039;t generate the traffic it use to.

I agree with AJ and Christene, if you haven&#039;t tried Wizzley, you should.  Although, if you live in one of those non affiliate Amazon states, the sales potential isn&#039;t as great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with your assessment of removing different lens sharing aspects on Squidoo.  For me, it started way back when they removed groups.</p>
<p>One you didn&#8217;t mention is the changes they made to the Discovery module allowing lensmasters to monopolize all six spots which relagates it to a featured lens module and doesn&#8217;t generate the traffic it use to.</p>
<p>I agree with AJ and Christene, if you haven&#8217;t tried Wizzley, you should.  Although, if you live in one of those non affiliate Amazon states, the sales potential isn&#8217;t as great.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellen, I think the point you make about lenses being updated due to all the recent changes is a very important factor in lensrank dropping for some. I think those of us who have always updated their lenses regularly are seeing the results of other &quot;sleeper&quot; lenses being given makeovers due to the removal of HTML from the Bio.

Many of us were making use of the Bio as being a prime place to put banners and of course any change that hits income potential will wake people up and have them working on lenses that were just being left to &quot;simmer&quot;.

I am hearing from a senior hubpages publisher that because of the way they handled their Google Slap they have managed to upset a lot of their top publishers and they are responding by not being as active and going in to &quot;wait and see mode&quot;. There&#039;s rumors it may be sold and the time when it will become obvious if it is going to happen will be after the summer.

Some are moving their content. I have never been prolific at Hubpages but I have moved two non-performing hubs to Wizzley, which along with Christene, I can highly recommend. It is run by people I know and trust and they are very aware of the value of the owners maintaining close contact with the members. Publishing standards are also high in order to maintain the quality of the site.

Also, the learning curve at Wizzley is not huge and making and publishing pages is a lot faster - give it a try, I think you will like it.

Like you, although my Squidoo income is gradually increasing, my Squidoo goals have taken a knock and reaching them will take longer. But my long term goal is to earn the bulk of my income from sites I own - the happenings at Squidoo and Hubpages have shown me that we will always be vulnerable all the time we publish on sites owned by others and subject to the decisions of others - I also have a theory about sites owned by younger people as opposed to those who have more experience of life in general, but that would make a whole blog post in itself - perhaps I should write it :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, I think the point you make about lenses being updated due to all the recent changes is a very important factor in lensrank dropping for some. I think those of us who have always updated their lenses regularly are seeing the results of other &#8220;sleeper&#8221; lenses being given makeovers due to the removal of HTML from the Bio.</p>
<p>Many of us were making use of the Bio as being a prime place to put banners and of course any change that hits income potential will wake people up and have them working on lenses that were just being left to &#8220;simmer&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am hearing from a senior hubpages publisher that because of the way they handled their Google Slap they have managed to upset a lot of their top publishers and they are responding by not being as active and going in to &#8220;wait and see mode&#8221;. There&#8217;s rumors it may be sold and the time when it will become obvious if it is going to happen will be after the summer.</p>
<p>Some are moving their content. I have never been prolific at Hubpages but I have moved two non-performing hubs to Wizzley, which along with Christene, I can highly recommend. It is run by people I know and trust and they are very aware of the value of the owners maintaining close contact with the members. Publishing standards are also high in order to maintain the quality of the site.</p>
<p>Also, the learning curve at Wizzley is not huge and making and publishing pages is a lot faster &#8211; give it a try, I think you will like it.</p>
<p>Like you, although my Squidoo income is gradually increasing, my Squidoo goals have taken a knock and reaching them will take longer. But my long term goal is to earn the bulk of my income from sites I own &#8211; the happenings at Squidoo and Hubpages have shown me that we will always be vulnerable all the time we publish on sites owned by others and subject to the decisions of others &#8211; I also have a theory about sites owned by younger people as opposed to those who have more experience of life in general, but that would make a whole blog post in itself &#8211; perhaps I should write it <img src="http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: MisterJeremy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the nice summary of all the changes. My traffic has actually gone up a bit, with the distribution more even than before. Like you said though, too many changes were implemented at once to know what caused what. My guess is that you and others with squidoo-related lenses suffered the most, which is a bummer because you are one of the biggest contributors to the community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice summary of all the changes. My traffic has actually gone up a bit, with the distribution more even than before. Like you said though, too many changes were implemented at once to know what caused what. My guess is that you and others with squidoo-related lenses suffered the most, which is a bummer because you are one of the biggest contributors to the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Christene</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is certainly a hard time for me now. :/
My lensranks have plummeted, sales are slow, and traffic is disappearing. I really miss having fanclubs too.

Silver lining: the increase in tier payouts has made this my best year yet on Squidoo. I&#039;ve already earned more than 2007, 2008 or 2009, and I&#039;m way up from this time last year.

(You need to join Wizzley! It&#039;s shiny and new... and small, so they are very attentive.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly a hard time for me now. :/<br />
My lensranks have plummeted, sales are slow, and traffic is disappearing. I really miss having fanclubs too.</p>
<p>Silver lining: the increase in tier payouts has made this my best year yet on Squidoo. I&#8217;ve already earned more than 2007, 2008 or 2009, and I&#8217;m way up from this time last year.</p>
<p>(You need to join Wizzley! It&#8217;s shiny and new&#8230; and small, so they are very attentive.)</p>
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