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	<title>Comments on: A Squidoo Timeline: Looking Back at the Past Year</title>
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		<title>By: E. Brundige</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2013/07/a-squidoo-timeline-looking-back-at-past-year/comment-page-1/#comment-16607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Brundige]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know enough about Google to speculate whether the benefits of removing low-quality content and showing a commitment to crack down on spam outweigh the downside of having a high bounce rate. 

One of the problems is that we&#039;re all more or less performing interpretations of what we &lt;I&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; Google is doing by reasoning and guesswork which may or may not match what Google actually &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/I&gt;.

I&#039;m already pushing a point by suggesting that we look very closely at the &lt;I&gt;timing&lt;/i&gt; of Google algorithm changes and Squidoo design changes vs. traffic fluctuations. But &quot;correlation does not equal causation.&quot; It&#039;s just a slightly more rigorous approach than &quot;what do I think it would be logical for Google to do?&quot; I also base my guesses on anecdotal evidence: (1) on multiple occasions, I&#039;ve seen Matt Cutts and the Google team recommending that a site suffering from Panda or other content-related penalties take a long hard look at its content and purge the junk. (2) When Squidoo was hit by a Google penalty in summer 2007 for too much spam, and Squidoo acted quickly to install spam filters and tidy up the site, Google responded favorably, and all the search traffic came back.

Which leads me to think that Google takes into consideration whether the deleted pages were poor content and whether the cleanup seems to be an attempt to improve the site. The problem is, I&#039;ve seen an awful lot of high-quality, original, well-researched articles that were getting good search traffic locked and deleted on Squidoo, while some of HQ&#039;s projects to push mini reviews and lenslets appear to me to be doubling down on some types of pages that are discouraged by Google guidelines.

A side note:  Bounce rate may not be quite the ranking signal we often assume it to be. See Michael Martinez&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seo-theory.com/2012/03/02/the-late-great-bounce-rate-debate/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;essay on bounce rate&lt;/a&gt; for some perspectives that made me adjust my own thinking about bounce rate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enough about Google to speculate whether the benefits of removing low-quality content and showing a commitment to crack down on spam outweigh the downside of having a high bounce rate. </p>
<p>One of the problems is that we&#8217;re all more or less performing interpretations of what we <i>think</i> Google is doing by reasoning and guesswork which may or may not match what Google actually <i>does</i>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m already pushing a point by suggesting that we look very closely at the <i>timing</i> of Google algorithm changes and Squidoo design changes vs. traffic fluctuations. But &#8220;correlation does not equal causation.&#8221; It&#8217;s just a slightly more rigorous approach than &#8220;what do I think it would be logical for Google to do?&#8221; I also base my guesses on anecdotal evidence: (1) on multiple occasions, I&#8217;ve seen Matt Cutts and the Google team recommending that a site suffering from Panda or other content-related penalties take a long hard look at its content and purge the junk. (2) When Squidoo was hit by a Google penalty in summer 2007 for too much spam, and Squidoo acted quickly to install spam filters and tidy up the site, Google responded favorably, and all the search traffic came back.</p>
<p>Which leads me to think that Google takes into consideration whether the deleted pages were poor content and whether the cleanup seems to be an attempt to improve the site. The problem is, I&#8217;ve seen an awful lot of high-quality, original, well-researched articles that were getting good search traffic locked and deleted on Squidoo, while some of HQ&#8217;s projects to push mini reviews and lenslets appear to me to be doubling down on some types of pages that are discouraged by Google guidelines.</p>
<p>A side note:  Bounce rate may not be quite the ranking signal we often assume it to be. See Michael Martinez&#8217;s <a href="http://www.seo-theory.com/2012/03/02/the-late-great-bounce-rate-debate/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">essay on bounce rate</a> for some perspectives that made me adjust my own thinking about bounce rate.</p>
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		<title>By: ProjectResolute</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2013/07/a-squidoo-timeline-looking-back-at-past-year/comment-page-1/#comment-16557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ProjectResolute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 19:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um... So you suspect what I also have tossed around in my head: that a site that removes a lot of its pages will bring the whole site down?

It would increase bounce rate in google&#039;s eyes
It raises a flag that google &quot;thinks&quot; that if this website has removed a lot of pages of crap, than maybe the whole site is crap? 

That&#039;s my two cents :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; So you suspect what I also have tossed around in my head: that a site that removes a lot of its pages will bring the whole site down?</p>
<p>It would increase bounce rate in google&#8217;s eyes<br />
It raises a flag that google &#8220;thinks&#8221; that if this website has removed a lot of pages of crap, than maybe the whole site is crap? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my two cents <img src="http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: makingamark</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2013/07/a-squidoo-timeline-looking-back-at-past-year/comment-page-1/#comment-7608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[makingamark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you seen the latest? http://hq.squidoo.com/squid-news/new-amazon-link-limit/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the latest? <a href="http://hq.squidoo.com/squid-news/new-amazon-link-limit/" rel="nofollow">http://hq.squidoo.com/squid-news/new-amazon-link-limit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greekgeek</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2013/07/a-squidoo-timeline-looking-back-at-past-year/comment-page-1/#comment-7049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greekgeek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the other hand, to put a slightly less pessimistic spin on this: a lot of spam and garbage must have been locked as well, so at least in some cases a bounce is still better than what was occupying those URLs before.

That&#039;s the goal HQ is striving for, and it&#039;s a valid one, even if I&#039;m sounding the alarm on &lt;I&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; problems that I fear may continue to dog Squidoo in the SERPs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, to put a slightly less pessimistic spin on this: a lot of spam and garbage must have been locked as well, so at least in some cases a bounce is still better than what was occupying those URLs before.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the goal HQ is striving for, and it&#8217;s a valid one, even if I&#8217;m sounding the alarm on <i>other</i> problems that I fear may continue to dog Squidoo in the SERPs.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Burns</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2013/07/a-squidoo-timeline-looking-back-at-past-year/comment-page-1/#comment-7027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Burns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the bounce rate from all those locked lenses has got to be hurting also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bounce rate from all those locked lenses has got to be hurting also.</p>
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		<title>By: Greekgeek</title>
		<link>http://greekgeek.mythphile.com/2013/07/a-squidoo-timeline-looking-back-at-past-year/comment-page-1/#comment-7024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greekgeek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was looking back through the official Squidoo forums to double-check dates for this timeline, I was struck by the number of reports of content lost from different modules after each module update, bugs that sometimes didn&#039;t appear to be resolved even weeks later. There were so many such module changes that I had to drop them from the timeline and allude to them in a footnote.

Meanwhile, many members are are afraid to update existing lenses, after finding content warnings popping up when we hit publish on an existing, hitherto &quot;safe&quot; lens. (I keep hearing of people who update long-established lenses, only to find them locked the next day.) 

Lots of lost content + people reluctant to fix the damage suggests to me that Google is seeing an awful lot of empty modules and incomplete lenses, which may be treated as &quot;thin&quot; content by Panda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was looking back through the official Squidoo forums to double-check dates for this timeline, I was struck by the number of reports of content lost from different modules after each module update, bugs that sometimes didn&#8217;t appear to be resolved even weeks later. There were so many such module changes that I had to drop them from the timeline and allude to them in a footnote.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, many members are are afraid to update existing lenses, after finding content warnings popping up when we hit publish on an existing, hitherto &#8220;safe&#8221; lens. (I keep hearing of people who update long-established lenses, only to find them locked the next day.) </p>
<p>Lots of lost content + people reluctant to fix the damage suggests to me that Google is seeing an awful lot of empty modules and incomplete lenses, which may be treated as &#8220;thin&#8221; content by Panda.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn (Alleycatlane)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolyn (Alleycatlane)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this timeline. It helps put things into perspective.

Noticed just yesterday when trying to update lens, a lot of my Amazon modules were empty. When I clicked on them sometimes they showed what was supposed to be there and sometimes they were devoid of items. If I clicked save without doing anything, they would reappear. Sometimes it took 2-3 tries to get them to show up. I filed a bug report.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this timeline. It helps put things into perspective.</p>
<p>Noticed just yesterday when trying to update lens, a lot of my Amazon modules were empty. When I clicked on them sometimes they showed what was supposed to be there and sometimes they were devoid of items. If I clicked save without doing anything, they would reappear. Sometimes it took 2-3 tries to get them to show up. I filed a bug report.</p>
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